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		<title>By: Aron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 01:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;@Mike&lt;/strong&gt;: Yes, it&#039;s a good one, right?

Great question, but a hard one. I&#039;m a big fan of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bartleby.com/people/Milton-J.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Milton&lt;/a&gt; (Lycidas, Il Penseroso &amp; L&#039;Allegro, At a Solemn Musick, etc.). Then there&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.everypoet.com/archive/poetry/William_Shakespeare/william_shakespeare_contents.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Shakespeare&lt;/a&gt;, of course. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bartleby.com/people/Yeats-Wi.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Yeats&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bartelby.net/126/index3.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Keats&lt;/a&gt;, The Brownings (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bartelby.net/people/BrowningR.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Robert&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.poetseers.org/the_great_poets/female_poets/elizabeth_browning_poetry&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Elizabeth&lt;/a&gt;), Gray (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thomasgray.org/cgi-bin/display.cgi?text=odfc&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Favourite Cat...&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thomasgray.org/cgi-bin/display.cgi?text=elcc&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Elegy in a Churchyard&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thomasgray.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;etc&lt;/a&gt;.), Donne (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.poetseers.org/the_great_poets/british_poets/john_donne/john_donne_poems/death_be_not_proud&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Death Be Not Proud&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.poetseers.org/the_great_poets/british_poets/john_donne/john_donne_poems&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;etc&lt;/a&gt;.), Hopkins (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bartelby.net/122/40.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Carrion Comfort&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bartelby.net/122/index3.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;etc&lt;/a&gt;.), Wordsworth, Thomas (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.poetseers.org/contemporary_poets/modern_poets/dylan_thomas_poems/do_not_go_gentle_into_that_good_night/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Do Not Go Gentle&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.poetseers.org/contemporary_poets/modern_poets/dylan_thomas/dylan_thomas_poems/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;etc&lt;/a&gt;.), etc. There are a lot of good poets referenced in Elisabeth Elliot&#039;s &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wtsbooks.com/product-exec/product_id/4447/nm/Passion+and+Purity%3A+Learning+to+Bring+Your+Love+Life+Under+Christ%27s+Control&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Passion and Purity&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt; and Sheldon Van Auken&#039;s &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wtsbooks.com/product-exec/product_id/4565/nm/+A+Severe+Mercy&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;A Severe Mercy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt; as well. T. David Gordon, in his recent book &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wtsbooks.com/product-exec/product_id/6158/nm/Why+Johnny+Can%27t+Preach%3A+The+Media+Have+Shaped+the+Messengers+%28Paperback%29&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Why Johnny Can&#039;t Preach&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;, highly recommends Harold Bloom&#039;s &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Best-Poems-English-Language-Chaucer/dp/0060540427/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1245114442&amp;sr=8-1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Best Poems of the English Language : From Chaucer Through Robert Frost&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;. If you buy something, be sure it&#039;s well-annotated; that&#039;s very helpful if you don&#039;t have a teacher to question.

Another great resource for (especially devotional) poetry is the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.opc.org/hymn.html?list_type=alpha&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Trinity Hymnal&lt;/a&gt; and the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ccel.org/ccel/newton/olneyhymns.toc.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Olney Hymns&lt;/a&gt; of John Newton and Charles Simeon. (I will often incorporate hymns into my private or family devotions for their theological as well as aesthetic beauty.) There&#039;s so much out there - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.poetseers.org/the_great_poets/british_poets&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;good&lt;/a&gt; and bad. Perhaps if &lt;a href=&quot;http://opheliarhiana.blogspot.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Lauren&lt;/a&gt; (the lady-of-letters extraordinaire) stops by, she could give you some advice too...? Anyone else?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@Mike</strong>: Yes, it&#8217;s a good one, right?</p>
<p>Great question, but a hard one. I&#8217;m a big fan of <a href="http://www.bartleby.com/people/Milton-J.html" rel="nofollow">Milton</a> (Lycidas, Il Penseroso &amp; L&#8217;Allegro, At a Solemn Musick, etc.). Then there&#8217;s <a href="http://www.everypoet.com/archive/poetry/William_Shakespeare/william_shakespeare_contents.htm" rel="nofollow">Shakespeare</a>, of course. <a href="http://www.bartleby.com/people/Yeats-Wi.html" rel="nofollow">Yeats</a>, <a href="http://www.bartelby.net/126/index3.html" rel="nofollow">Keats</a>, The Brownings (<a href="http://www.bartelby.net/people/BrowningR.html" rel="nofollow">Robert</a>, <a href="http://www.poetseers.org/the_great_poets/female_poets/elizabeth_browning_poetry" rel="nofollow">Elizabeth</a>), Gray (<a href="http://www.thomasgray.org/cgi-bin/display.cgi?text=odfc" rel="nofollow">Favourite Cat&#8230;</a>, <a href="http://www.thomasgray.org/cgi-bin/display.cgi?text=elcc" rel="nofollow">Elegy in a Churchyard</a>, <a href="http://www.thomasgray.org/" rel="nofollow">etc</a>.), Donne (<a href="http://www.poetseers.org/the_great_poets/british_poets/john_donne/john_donne_poems/death_be_not_proud" rel="nofollow">Death Be Not Proud</a>, <a href="http://www.poetseers.org/the_great_poets/british_poets/john_donne/john_donne_poems" rel="nofollow">etc</a>.), Hopkins (<a href="http://www.bartelby.net/122/40.html" rel="nofollow">Carrion Comfort</a>, <a href="http://www.bartelby.net/122/index3.html" rel="nofollow">etc</a>.), Wordsworth, Thomas (<a href="http://www.poetseers.org/contemporary_poets/modern_poets/dylan_thomas_poems/do_not_go_gentle_into_that_good_night/" rel="nofollow">Do Not Go Gentle</a>, <a href="http://www.poetseers.org/contemporary_poets/modern_poets/dylan_thomas/dylan_thomas_poems/" rel="nofollow">etc</a>.), etc. There are a lot of good poets referenced in Elisabeth Elliot&#8217;s <em><a href="http://www.wtsbooks.com/product-exec/product_id/4447/nm/Passion+and+Purity%3A+Learning+to+Bring+Your+Love+Life+Under+Christ%27s+Control" rel="nofollow">Passion and Purity</a></em> and Sheldon Van Auken&#8217;s <em><a href="http://www.wtsbooks.com/product-exec/product_id/4565/nm/+A+Severe+Mercy" rel="nofollow">A Severe Mercy</a></em> as well. T. David Gordon, in his recent book <em><a href="http://www.wtsbooks.com/product-exec/product_id/6158/nm/Why+Johnny+Can%27t+Preach%3A+The+Media+Have+Shaped+the+Messengers+%28Paperback%29" rel="nofollow">Why Johnny Can&#8217;t Preach</a></em>, highly recommends Harold Bloom&#8217;s <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Best-Poems-English-Language-Chaucer/dp/0060540427/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1245114442&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow">The Best Poems of the English Language : From Chaucer Through Robert Frost</a></em>. If you buy something, be sure it&#8217;s well-annotated; that&#8217;s very helpful if you don&#8217;t have a teacher to question.</p>
<p>Another great resource for (especially devotional) poetry is the <a href="http://www.opc.org/hymn.html?list_type=alpha" rel="nofollow">Trinity Hymnal</a> and the <a href="http://www.ccel.org/ccel/newton/olneyhymns.toc.html" rel="nofollow">Olney Hymns</a> of John Newton and Charles Simeon. (I will often incorporate hymns into my private or family devotions for their theological as well as aesthetic beauty.) There&#8217;s so much out there &#8211; <a href="http://www.poetseers.org/the_great_poets/british_poets" rel="nofollow">good</a> and bad. Perhaps if <a href="http://opheliarhiana.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Lauren</a> (the lady-of-letters extraordinaire) stops by, she could give you some advice too&#8230;? Anyone else?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://arongahagan.com/rudyard-kipling-if_773/comment-page-1/#comment-10031</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 17:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Aron,

Liked this one...

I&#039;m looking to read a little more poetry.  Any good suggestions on where to start?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Aron,</p>
<p>Liked this one&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m looking to read a little more poetry.  Any good suggestions on where to start?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Pearce</title>
		<link>http://arongahagan.com/rudyard-kipling-if_773/comment-page-1/#comment-10029</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Pearce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 14:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is brilliant.  Way better than my most recent post.  There&#039;s a reason that Kipling is a renowned author and I play with dirt for a living.

I need to use the word knave more often.  Well, even once yearly would be more than I use it now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is brilliant.  Way better than my most recent post.  There&#8217;s a reason that Kipling is a renowned author and I play with dirt for a living.</p>
<p>I need to use the word knave more often.  Well, even once yearly would be more than I use it now.</p>
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